Dear Professor Kim,
Sorry to bombard you with these questions. I have come across a problem on your note ’some principle ideals’. When we factorize modulo 3 we get
we then associate these factors with the ideals
and
respectively. When we compute the norm of
we do so by calculating the determinant of the matrix
and find that the norm is in fact 9, so
is a principle ideal. However, we could just have easily used
or
and in each case I get a different answer for the determinant. Have I made an error or is there a canonical form of sort that I should be aware of?
Thank you for your time.
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Reply:
First of all, I presume your etc. are
etc. All the elements you mention do indeed belong to the ideal and can be used as generators *when used together with the element 3*. Indeed they are all all evaluations at
of polynomials that are congruent to
mod
. However, this does not mean they are generators on their own. Of course different elements in an ideal
will have different norms in general. However, an element
is a generator *by itself* (making
into a principal ideal), exactly when
. Of course such a
need not exist. I haven’t calculated the norms of the elements you mention, but if their norms come out larger than 9, it merely says they are not generators (again, by themselves), while
is.
A thorny point that comes out of this discussion is that if you had initially presented the ideal as , for example, then it might have been harder to see that it is principal.
May 14, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Thanks for the feedback. So, if I understand you correctly, given a situation where we are checking for principality of an ideal, but we don’t find a generator with our first presentation, our only option would be to exhaust all the other possibilities?
May 15, 2009 at 8:59 am
`Exhaust other possibilities’ sounds exhausting. But recall that the equation
for an unknown element
in our ring is not too difficult to analyze, at least in many examples. If there are no solutions at all, then a fortiori there are no solutions in our ideal. So the ideal would not be principal. However, if there is a solution, you would still need to check if there is a solution in the ideal. This can be somewhat trickier.